专访 Andy Tubman | 聆听也能带来疗愈
2026-3-21
时隔十二年，Andy Tubman携全新专辑《Tremblin’》回归，从《Sea of Sin》到《Ache for Strange》再到新作，他在疫情期间完成了从乐队协同创作到独立学习数字制作、独自包揽词曲编录的蜕变。而暌违七年再度开启中国巡演，他也期待用最动人的音乐与新老听众重逢，在巡演启程之际，UPEE 有幸与 Andy 进行一期专访，分享他的创作与心得。
UPEE：2 月份你发布了专辑《Tremblin’》，距离你上一张全长专辑《Sea of Sin》已经过去了 12 年。包括之前于 2022 年的 EP《Ache for Strange》，你觉得这三张作品期间的创作状态有什么变化吗？
Andy：疫情对每个人的影响都很独特，对我的音乐创作也是如此。和我的乐队The Jane Doe’s一起时，我们在录音室里高度协作，一起打磨歌曲、编曲和制作。
疫情带来的隔离状态，让我一头扎进了制作软件的学习里。所以《Ache for Strange》很大程度上是我独自完成的，是一张偏原声的专辑，用来熟悉数字制作的世界。到了《Tremblin’》，我开始在歌曲里加入更多制作层面的东西。这两张专辑偶尔也会得到帮助，比如Keven Semanski负责混音，也有一些乐手不时加入贡献创意，但除了几位优秀的音乐人之外，词曲、演奏和制作基本都是我自己完成的。某种意义上，是疫情逼着我深入学习了数字制作，我对此很感激，这两张专辑就是这段学习的成果。
Covid affected every individual in a unique way. This is also true when it comes to me recording music. With my band The Jane Doe’s, it was a very collaborative experience in the studio, working through songs, arrangements and production. One of my reactions to the isolation that Covid created was to really dive in to learning production software so 「Ache for Strange」 was a result of me by being myself and creating, for the most part an acoustic album to get to learn the digital landscape. Then 「Tremblin‘」is what happened as I tried to bring in more and more production to the songs. For both albums, I had help at times like Keven Semanski mixing the albums and different players coming in once in a while and contributing their creative energy, but with the exception of a few amazing artists, I played, wrote and produced both albums. In a way, Covid forced me into learning much more about digital production, which I am thankful for and these albums are the result of that.
UPEE：《Tremblin’》包含了你与 Audley Freed 的合作，可以分享这次合作的契机以及实现的过程吗？
Andy：很多年前，我在纳什维尔录制《Sea of Sin》，由Keith Gattis担任制作人。Keith自己吉他弹得很好，但他想让我写的一首情绪浓烈的歌《Chill》里，有一段极具冲击力的吉他音色。
于是他找来了Audley——他和Audley曾一起在Sheryl Crow的乐队里合作过。从那以后，我和Audley以及他的妻子Jen Gunderman一直是朋友，Jen是非常出色的键盘手，也在《Sea of Sin》里演奏了手风琴。
在新专辑《Tremblin’》中，《Now You Know》是一首非常克制、情绪浓烈的歌，写给一位离世的朋友，更像是我和逝去友人的对话。我当时立刻就想到，Audley的吉他是最完美的“应答之声”，能和人声形成呼应。
我给他打了电话，发去现场音轨，他回传了两三段实录，我再编辑整合，就完成了。和这样大师级的乐手合作，总是非常轻松。
A number of years ago when recording 「sea of sin」 in Nashville with Keith Gattis producing…Keith, though he was a great guitar player himself, wanted a ripping guitar sound on a dramatic song I wrote called 「Chill」. So he called Audley, who Keith had played with in Sheryl Crow‘s band, to come in and record a bit. Since then, I remain friends with Audley and his wife, Jen Gunderman, who is an amazing keyboard player and also played accordion on 「sea of sin」. On my most recent album, 「Tremblin‘」, the song now you know is an intense stripped down emotional song that I wrote about a friend who has passed. The song is kind of a conversation between me and my friend who has passed and I immediately thought of Audley’s guitar as the perfect ripping voice in a call and response to the vocal. I gave him a call, sent him the live tracks, and he sent me two or three live tracks that I edited together, and I was done… Always very easy to work with such a masterful player.
UPEE：与此同时，《Tremblin’》也使用到了你以往的合作伙伴、已故的 Keith Gattis 留下的演奏。可以分享你觉得这位音乐人对你的创作的影响吗？
Andy：最简单地说，Keith有一种极强的直觉，他知道哪些“不完美”的声音其实特别棒，并且总会坚持把这些不完美保留在录音里，让唱片变得特别。这对我来说是非常重要的制作一课，尤其在今天，我们拥有无限的数字编辑能力，电台里和日常听到的大多数歌曲都被过度量化、过度修音，磨掉了录音里的真实感和深度。
The simplest answer is that Keith had an amazing sense of what imperfect sounds were really cool and would always fight to keep these imperfections in the recordings to make the record special. This was a great production lesson for me, especially in today’s world when one has unlimited digital manipulation power And most songs on the radio and that you hear in general, are over quantized and over tuned digitally, taking out the authenticity and depth of the recording.
UPEE：你曾经也作为主创以 The Jane Doe’s 乐队成员身份活跃了一段时间，你觉得以乐队成员的身份创作和当下以个人身份创作有什么不同的体验吗？
Andy：作为个人音乐人，我感觉是在自己的小世界里做音乐。有时候这样能做出非常真实的作品，但有时候，缺少不同视角的过滤，也会让一些本不该出现在最终专辑里的想法保留下来，哈哈。而乐队里需要协调更多性格不同的人，但同时也能获得很棒的能量，有很多“过滤器”可以碰撞想法。所以我觉得，乐队录制出来的最终作品，整体上会比个人创作更稳定、更统一。
As a solo artist, I feel I am making music inside my bubble. Sometimes this can create very authentic music, but sometimes the lack of different filters can produce ideas that should not make it to a final album lol. That said with a band there are a lot more personalities to juggle, but you also have good energy and lots of filters to bounce ideas off of… so I think the end product in terms of recording can be much more consistent than when you’re doing it solo.
UPEE：可以分享在你的这几张专辑中你认为最能代表你的曲目吗？
Andy：这很难选，因为一个人的情绪、心境和状态总是在变，至少我是这样。我在不同时期写的歌，反映的就是那段时间的经历。
有几首歌对我来说特别有代表性：
《Sea of Sin》里的《Center Of The Universe》；
《Ache for Strange》里的《Something Bad》——不过我和即将一起来中国的阿根廷节奏组新乐队，给这首歌编了更有波莱罗风情的版本，我们可能会重新录制；
最后在《Tremblin’》里，《Now You Know》和《Just Another Day》都非常贴合我当时的心境。
This is difficult since one’s emotional, mental and general state in the world changes frequently… At least mine seems to. I think the songs that I write in different times reflect the experience of that time. I guess a few songs that stand out that capture specific moments in time for me would be 「Center Of The Universe」 that I recorded on 「sea of sin」, something bad that I recorded on 「Ache for Strange」…however I think my new band, with the Argentinian rhythm section that is coming to China, created a better arrangement with the bolero feel for the groove so we may be re-record that one… And lastly on 「Tremblin’」, I would say that now you know, and 「just another day」 definitely matched my mood of the day.
UPEE：距离上次你来到中国进行巡演已经过去了七年，对于上次的中国巡演还有什么记忆是现在还觉得很深刻的吗？
Andy：有一件事我一直记得——签售时，一位32岁的男士排了一个半小时的队，告诉我《Quiet Inside》和其他几首歌陪他熬过了两年的抑郁。我本身是音乐治疗师，一直以为必须在现场、面对面，才能把音乐当作“药”。那次经历让我真正意识到，仅仅是聆听，就拥有多么强大的力量。
One experience was while signing autographs, a 32-year-old man waited in a line for an hour and a half to tell me that 「Quiet Inside」 and some other songs got him through two years of depression… As the Music Therapist I always thought that I had to be in the room to really use music as medicine And that experience open my eyes to the power of what listening can do.
UPEE：对于这次中国巡演有什么期待？
Andy：我对这次巡演的期待，就是希望能和新老朋友一起，演唱、演奏这些美好的音乐。
My expectation for the coming tour is to hopefully sing and play beautiful music with some old and some new friends.